The puzzle I posted a few days ago is derived from a puzzle that’s worked its way around the Internet every so often in the past few years. See this forum in Russian (why don’t I know Russian?), or Misha Lemeshko’s blog, or Daniel Lemire for the version that mine is derived from. The incarnation I saw on Wednesday, on Facebook, which inspired this post, says that “This problem can be solved by pre-school children in 5-10 minutes, by programmers – in 1 hour, by people with higher education… well, check it yourself!
It’s then followed by the following list of numbers:
8809 = 6
7111 = 0
2172 = 0
6666 = 4
1111 = 0
3213 = 0
7662 = 2
9312 = 1
0000 = 4
2222 = 0
3333 = 0
5555 = 0
8193 = 3
8096 = 5
7777 = 0
9999 = 4
7756 = 1
6855 = 3
9881 = 5
5531 = 0
2581 = ?
Sort of implicit in the hint is that maybe it has something to do with the digits; Real Mathematicians think that puzzles involving digits are somehow inferior. (In A Mathematician’s Apology Hardy observes of facts such as 8712 = 4 × 2178 and 153 = 13 + 5 3 + 33 that “[t]hese are odd facts, very suitable for puzzle columns and likely to amuse amateurs, but there is nothing in them which appeals much to a mathematician.”
Perhaps the natural thing to do, if this is a claim about digits, is to then assume that the claim 8809 = 6 encodes the statement , and proceed on that basis. On that basis we have
and so
. We still need
. From the first “equality” we have
and so
. The answer is
.
As for the version I gave — there are eight equations in nine unknowns. These were derived by removing from the “bloated” version of the puzzle all the equations with four of the same digits on the left side, and all those with a zero on the right side. The system again has equations and so on. By subtracting equations from each other we get
. From “6855 = 3″ we have
, or
; if we agree that all values are nonnegative then
. Then from “7756 = 1″ we can get
. Also from relations we alrady derived,
.
But what are the values of 0, 1, and 9? It turns out that either or
works, from an addition standpoint.
So why does 4 never appears on the left hand side, therefore meaning we can never work out . This is a feature, not a bug.
is the number of holes in the numeral n. Some people draw 4 with one hole; some draw it with zero. So we choose
and so the answer is
.
For what it’s worth, I didn’t get the puzzle at all until after I saw the hint that pre-schoolers could solve it in 5-10 minutes, and then while scrolling through the list the key jumped out at me immediately even before I got to the rest of your post.
Just a side note as someone who’s used LaTeX on WordPress for a while: the {aligned} environment is your best friend for lists of equations like
You used 6666=0 in your solution. The puzzle says 6666=4.
Just count the circles
Like 6 has one circle, so 6=1
1 has no circles, so 1=0
8 has two circles, so 8=2
etc.
just count the number of circles of each No. in each series and you’ll get the answer
i.e 6666=4 circles
8809=6 circles
7111=0 circles
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Why would kids look for circles in particular? I might have looked for any other shape. This is nonsense. *Damn, those grapes look sour*
dude you are so retarded, just write what the values are and add them… dumbasses
king kong you genius